Vote #81334
完了Add the list of supported browsers to docs and drop support for IE 11
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説明
Beginning August 17, 2021, the remaining Microsoft 365 apps and services will no longer support IE 11. Microsoft Teams already ended support. More details "here":https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-365-blog/microsoft-365-apps-say-farewell-to-internet-explorer-11-and/ba-p/1591666#:~:text=Today%2C%20we're%20announcing%20that,no%20longer%20support%20IE%2011.
It's time to drop support for IE11 and supports only Microsoft Edge (Chromium version)
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I've assigned this to version:"5.0.0" for feedback.
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I think it is too early to end support for Internet Explorer 11 because not a few people are accessing Redmine with IE11.
I just grep'd our company's Redmine hosting access log and found that 15% of the accesses last week were using Internet Explorer. I don't think 15% is a small percentage.
I am not against ending support for IE11, but I think we should continue to support it at least until August. If Redmine 5.0.0 will be released by August, then the target version of this issue should not be 5.0.0.
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Most of the well know platforms already ended support for IE (Github, Gitlab, Jira, Gmail, etc) and the fact that Microsoft ends the support this summer it should be a good reason to encourage those 15% users that it's time to upgrade their browser. Also, running such a old browser could be a security issue in the coming months.
Also, I don't think that Redmine 5.0.0 will be released sooner than this autumn (6 months from 4.2.0) so maybe it's better to drop the old code now when we already do a lot of updates for Rails 6.1 and Ruby 3.0.
Please reconsider this.
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Marius BALTEANU wrote:
> Also, I don't think that Redmine 5.0.0 will be released sooner than this autumn (6 months from 4.2.0) so maybe it's better to drop the old code now when we already do a lot of updates for Rails 6.1 and Ruby 3.0.
I am in favor of dropping support for Internet Explorer 11 in Redmine 5.0.0 and start removing code for IE11 now, if Redmine 5.0.0 will not be released before August.
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for those who still rely on Internet Explorer 11 (even if I don't understand why), they should stay on Redmine 4.x or use a modern browser, even the legacy version of Edge (released 6 years ago) is much better.
I think a major version of Redmine is a good time to drop support of IE11 and a month or two of remaining official maintenance/security support by Microsoft shouldn't be a reason to wait.
15% seems to be a lot are you sure you don't count Edge users? It's ~2% on https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide and still dropping.
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Pavel Rosický wrote:
> 15% seems to be a lot are you sure you don't count Edge users? It's ~2% on https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide and still dropping.
I counted user agents that contain "Trident", so accesses from Edge browsers are excluded. I don't think 15% is a strange number. This is because Internet Explorer has a higher share in Japan and many of them are enterprise users. Therefore, Internet Explorer tends to have a higher percentage of access in services for businesses.
In Japan, Internet Explorer has 7% of the desktop browser market share (surprisingly, higher than Firefox!). Some companies do not allow their employees to use browsers other than IE for compatibility with their existing information systems.
https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/japan
Ending support for Internet Explorer right now will cause a backlash from such users. However, it will be much easier to persuade them if Redmine 5.0 is released after Microsoft ends support for Internet Explorer in its own services.
So, I am in favor of dropping support for Internet Explorer 11 in Redmine 5.0.0 and start removing code for IE11 *right now*, if Redmine 5.0.0 will not be released before August.
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I see, thanks for the explanation.
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Microsoft is going to end Internet Explorer after 5 months. I think we can drop the support for Internet Explorer in the trunk right now.
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/05/19/the-future-of-internet-explorer-on-windows-10-is-in-microsoft-edge/
> the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application will be retired and go out of support on June 15, 2022, for certain versions of Windows 10.
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Let's update the document.
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Patch committed, thanks!
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